Comment by François
Concerning software updates / patches, it's pretty weird and sad. But accepting patches also means reviewing/testing and they probably don't have enough resources for that now. But this is clearly...
View ArticleComment by François
@George I am not stating your issues / grievances are unreasonables. I understand them. To be trully sincere, I mostly agree with you. But this might also not be as easy as it seems. Regarding the...
View ArticleComment by George
@François There are various reasons for displeasure by people. Some of them can be resolved quite easily. Do you think the ones i listed on the main question are unreasonable? The main point is whether...
View ArticleComment by François
I see more and more threads coming up, where the displeasure about Jolla is expressed. And I'm tired of this. - Yes, not everything is perfect. - Yes, they made mistakes. - Yes, they'll do mistakes. I...
View ArticleComment by r0kk3rz
Remember that its the vocal minority who post comments, and people rarely post when everything is fine. I dont really understand why people compare the Jolla to android and iPhones. Sure its a...
View ArticleAnswer by SaimenSays for [rant] Jolla philosophy v2
I see more and more threads coming up, where the displeasure about Jolla is expressed. Because Jolla comes to market very late, where most people opted for Android or IOS, it is now very difficult to...
View ArticleComment by nthn
Here is a public roadmap: https://together.jolla.com/questions/scope:all/sort:activity-desc/tags:roadmap/page:1/query:roadmap/
View ArticleComment by ossi1967
@midnightoil: Go and buy your Ubuntu phone if you think they're doing so much better. The fact that you cannot tells that Jolla's way is the way to get things done and have a working product on the...
View ArticleComment by midnightoil
No-one is asking for that ... but there's a deafening silence in most areas, and as stated, a public roadmap or list of fixes that are being worked on and ETAs would take practically no time to make or...
View ArticleComment by nthn
If you want Jolla employees to reply to every single post on here there would be no one/time left to actually work on things. Join the mailing lists and you will receive all the latest info without...
View ArticleComment by midnightoil
But if you're going to claim openess and how different and community friendly you are, this endeavour at least would surely be worth their while, as it's very resource unintensive and would placate a...
View ArticleComment by bilgy_no1
I'm not saying they're perfect. But none of these things you mention are available for any of the other open source platforms. Let alone platforms like Android, Windows phone and iOS. No other...
View ArticleComment by midnightoil
Where's their public feature roadmap and milestones document? Few people know what's going on and when or if certain things will come. Lots of basic features / bugs are noted by devs on this forum, and...
View ArticleAnswer by bilgy_no1 for [rant] Jolla philosophy v2
I think that Jolla are developing the platform in a very open way, more see than any other manufacturer. Compare it to the way Samsung are developing their Tizen platform. There, there's an sdk for...
View ArticleComment by midnightoil
All those things are still 'unacceptable' ? Well, that explains a lot ..
View ArticleComment by MartinK
Still the fact is that ~10 months after launch you can't submit any apps to Harbor that use GPS, sleep inhibition, daemons, SDL, Python, Contacts, Settings integration, volume key bindings and other...
View ArticleComment by midnightoil
Did the N900 even launch with Ovi? Anyway, I distinctly remember being able to enable different respoitories (including experimental / untrusted) directly through the device's UI.
View ArticleComment by strongm
I'd suggest that the lack of support for paid apps in the store is at least one major reason that we haven't got Swype on the Jolla.
View ArticleComment by Sthocs
"I'm not saying put experimental / unassured stuff in the Jolla Store itself, but having Warehouse itself shouldn't be a problem" You are saying one thing and the contrary in the same sentence. Having...
View ArticleComment by r0kk3rz
It's really not that difficult to download the warehouse RPM and install, but has enough separation so that its clear that this is not supported by Jolla and is at your own risk. Open doesn't have to...
View ArticleComment by midnightoil
There was never any big problem that I can remember with the N900's disclaimer before enabling experimental / other respositories. For basic users, turning on untrusted app support and downloading...
View ArticleComment by r0kk3rz
a lot of OpenRepos apps use methods that Jolla doesnt allow on Harbour, so its not a case of code checking. Legal disclaimers might work in a court but it makes for a poor user experience if Jolla is...
View ArticleComment by George
Even if they don't put OpenRepos Warehouse in the Jolla Store, they could at least move apps to their store sooner. Surely it can't be very hard to ensure a localisation package does not contain...
View ArticleComment by midnightoil
I'm not saying put experimental / unassured stuff in the Jolla Store itself, but having Warehouse itself shouldn't be a problem, especially if the store page makes it clear that some software isn't...
View ArticleComment by r0kk3rz
Having OpenRepos Warehouse in the Jolla Store is a bad idea, there's loads of experimental stuff on there with fairly wide ranging consequences and zero quality assurance. Don't get me wrong OpenRepos...
View ArticleComment by midnightoil
Never saw that. But why no word whatsoever since? Making clear and public how they plan to support developers with a way to commercialise their efforts should surely be made more prominent than a...
View ArticleComment by ssahla
About paid app support, from SailfishDevel mailing list, April 2014: https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2014-April/004063.html > We see the payment support in store as > a really...
View ArticleAnswer by midnightoil for [rant] Jolla philosophy v2
**Re: HW Support.** **2)** That they still don't have spare batteries for sale is mind boggling. It's a simple commodity, and the Jolla one should be pretty cheap and widely available. Unless of course...
View ArticleComment by Spam Hunter
Hardware Support #4 - TOH colours Totally agreed on this point, just where are the extra colours that we got a good glimpse of prior to actually getting the phone and as pointed out, only 3 are...
View ArticleComment by cocovina
Personally I would greatly appreciate to Jolla's developers get focused mainly on repairing of known bugs and basic improvements that can make your phone more operational today and every day....
View ArticleComment by r0kk3rz
HW Support #3 The guys working on the HW Keyboard are making great progress [TMO Thread](http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93156). Sure its still mostly a hobby effort but HW development is...
View ArticleComment by George
@r0kk3rz I'm not saying they don't do a good job. If anything, the do a great one and the keyboard looks awesome and i can't wait to get one. My point was towards the support they receive during the...
View ArticleComment by r0kk3rz
@strongm I know, I've got one. EUR14 isnt cheap, takes over 3 weeks to get one, and 3d printing isn't best for this kind of thing compared to injection molded polycarbonate like the stock TOH is. You...
View ArticleComment by midnightoil
He's not belitting Dirk or community efforts, he's just stating facts. Hobby projects are all well and good, and the V2 may be great, for what it is ... but quite honestly, Jolla would have been much...
View ArticleComment by strongm
>It's surprising that there are no cheap ... non-smart covers available for Jolla http://www.flypig.co.uk/toh/ are offering such for just over €14 plus P&P
View ArticleComment by MartinK
@00prometheus Well, I wouldn't belittle the community effort like this - hardware design is hard and IMO hardware keyboard design is even harder! The excellent N900 keyboard is rather an exception,...
View ArticleComment by 00prometheus
@r0kk3rz I don't agree that the TMO efforts are sufficient. I have a TOHKBD v1, and I will very likely buy the v2, but it is clearly also an extreme enthusiasts device; 100€ for a keyboard that barely...
View Article[rant] Jolla philosophy v2
Hello, I've gone through the original post at https://together.jolla.com/question/43398/rant-jolla-philosophy/ and even though i agree to some extend, i wouldn't like to focus on those bits. My points...
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